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		By: Gospel Yeshua		</title>
		<link>https://organicshelter.life/the-original-gospel-of-christ/#comment-6556</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[it&#039;s been a few years since I first read this. i re-read it today. thanks Robert. It is a good teaching. I also expressed a similar counseling today to my neighbor, who was frustrated by his lack of faith in xtian church teachings. I told him that the usual manner of xtian churches is to blame the church follower for their lack of faith, and praise those followers who are able to smugly feign their association to the church for the sake of appearances and conformity. I told him that if I desire to teach someone and they don&#039;t trust me enough to follow through with a teaching, then I am to blame for that and not the student/audience/follower.

Specifically regarding the proposition of ransom of a perfect man for the sins of all mankind. We are unable to connect to this proposition with the same depth of emotion today because we do not accept the legal principle that it is dependent upon. In ancient times, when someone committed a crime, they aggrieved the crime&#039;s victim and the victim&#039;s family, i.e. not the state. The aggrieved party can be made whole by the criminal and the judge closes the case. How can they be made whole? with a payment of money in some cases, or a substitute person to serve out the sentence of penalty (including execution).

We do not accept the payment of ransoms, nor substitutes for the criminal&#039;s penalty, today in our courts of law. The payment for tort claims such as wrongful death, resembles some part of this, however, we&#039;re getting off the subject now.

The point is, if you were the judge, and you wouldn&#039;t accept the ransom of another person for the defendant in a criminal case, then how can you now use this as the basis for your moral teaching? You cannot. And only people who are pretending to do that get any credibility in xtian churches. As you teach in this post, the real sin is to believe that we aren&#039;t worthy of God&#039;s love ( or substitute a more meaningful terminology if you can ). Shame/Guilt/Condemnation teachings had a very beneficial effect on the simple people who were unable to control their behavior and build a civilization. Teach us then, not to gloat over the victory, but rather to bathe in it&#039;s perfumed delightful presence.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s been a few years since I first read this. i re-read it today. thanks Robert. It is a good teaching. I also expressed a similar counseling today to my neighbor, who was frustrated by his lack of faith in xtian church teachings. I told him that the usual manner of xtian churches is to blame the church follower for their lack of faith, and praise those followers who are able to smugly feign their association to the church for the sake of appearances and conformity. I told him that if I desire to teach someone and they don&#8217;t trust me enough to follow through with a teaching, then I am to blame for that and not the student/audience/follower.</p>
<p>Specifically regarding the proposition of ransom of a perfect man for the sins of all mankind. We are unable to connect to this proposition with the same depth of emotion today because we do not accept the legal principle that it is dependent upon. In ancient times, when someone committed a crime, they aggrieved the crime&#8217;s victim and the victim&#8217;s family, i.e. not the state. The aggrieved party can be made whole by the criminal and the judge closes the case. How can they be made whole? with a payment of money in some cases, or a substitute person to serve out the sentence of penalty (including execution).</p>
<p>We do not accept the payment of ransoms, nor substitutes for the criminal&#8217;s penalty, today in our courts of law. The payment for tort claims such as wrongful death, resembles some part of this, however, we&#8217;re getting off the subject now.</p>
<p>The point is, if you were the judge, and you wouldn&#8217;t accept the ransom of another person for the defendant in a criminal case, then how can you now use this as the basis for your moral teaching? You cannot. And only people who are pretending to do that get any credibility in xtian churches. As you teach in this post, the real sin is to believe that we aren&#8217;t worthy of God&#8217;s love ( or substitute a more meaningful terminology if you can ). Shame/Guilt/Condemnation teachings had a very beneficial effect on the simple people who were unable to control their behavior and build a civilization. Teach us then, not to gloat over the victory, but rather to bathe in it&#8217;s perfumed delightful presence.</p>
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		By: Robert Cinque		</title>
		<link>https://organicshelter.life/the-original-gospel-of-christ/#comment-6059</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2023 13:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[many thanks!
r]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>many thanks!<br />
r</p>
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		By: Robert Cinque		</title>
		<link>https://organicshelter.life/the-original-gospel-of-christ/#comment-6053</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Cinque]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2023 13:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[please do, and share far and wide!
robert]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please do, and share far and wide!<br />
robert</p>
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		By: Robert Cinque		</title>
		<link>https://organicshelter.life/the-original-gospel-of-christ/#comment-6052</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Cinque]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2023 13:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[glad to hear!!
robert]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>glad to hear!!<br />
robert</p>
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		By: Russian Reader		</title>
		<link>https://organicshelter.life/the-original-gospel-of-christ/#comment-5987</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Russian Reader]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Mar 2023 03:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s hard to find educated people about this topic, however, you 
sound like you know what you&#039;re talking about! Thanks]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s hard to find educated people about this topic, however, you<br />
sound like you know what you&#8217;re talking about! Thanks</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
		<link>https://organicshelter.life/the-original-gospel-of-christ/#comment-17</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2020 09:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I could spend hours in mental masturbation, enjoying myself, while I discuss and ponder what you have written and respond to it with essays about the subjects that you have written about. Another option is to enjoy what you have written and recognize the fact that if we are not able to connect with the promises of Jesus&#039; message, for whatever reason, we are not to blame. I affirm and assert that people who demand accountability from preachers and ask hard questions are sincere human beings. Rejecting the Bible because it is hurting you and does not offer you the answers that you are looking for is a holy act. I do not support country-club xtians, even though, maybe in my actions, I have supported them. I continue to follow Jesus and decorate my life with His presence, and I invite others to do that if they get a connection/epiphany/revelation. Jesus&#039; words were mysterious even in His own times, as you can tell from the reactions that are described. Some of the parables are not obvious, and require explanation. For me, it is worth the trouble. I do not judge anyone who does not accept the statements of faith.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could spend hours in mental masturbation, enjoying myself, while I discuss and ponder what you have written and respond to it with essays about the subjects that you have written about. Another option is to enjoy what you have written and recognize the fact that if we are not able to connect with the promises of Jesus&#8217; message, for whatever reason, we are not to blame. I affirm and assert that people who demand accountability from preachers and ask hard questions are sincere human beings. Rejecting the Bible because it is hurting you and does not offer you the answers that you are looking for is a holy act. I do not support country-club xtians, even though, maybe in my actions, I have supported them. I continue to follow Jesus and decorate my life with His presence, and I invite others to do that if they get a connection/epiphany/revelation. Jesus&#8217; words were mysterious even in His own times, as you can tell from the reactions that are described. Some of the parables are not obvious, and require explanation. For me, it is worth the trouble. I do not judge anyone who does not accept the statements of faith.</p>
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		By: Rhia R. Drouillard		</title>
		<link>https://organicshelter.life/the-original-gospel-of-christ/#comment-16</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rhia R. Drouillard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Dec 2013 01:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is beautiful, Bob. Thanks for sharing it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is beautiful, Bob. Thanks for sharing it.</p>
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		By: Reader		</title>
		<link>https://organicshelter.life/the-original-gospel-of-christ/#comment-15</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Reader]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2012 02:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jesus Christ in the light of Sanatana Dharma  
http://www.vijayvaani.com/FrmPublicDisplayArticle.aspx?id=2460]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesus Christ in the light of Sanatana Dharma<br />
<a href="http://www.vijayvaani.com/FrmPublicDisplayArticle.aspx?id=2460" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.vijayvaani.com/FrmPublicDisplayArticle.aspx?id=2460</a></p>
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